The KHRM post

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Re: The KHRM post

Postby thefrenchowl » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:24 pm

Mutt: So the 54 KHRM doesn't come with a kickstand ? (can't see it on the brochure) What are those shocks covered with?


Hum... Side stand... Can we rely on the info viewed on ONE factory photo...

Why not!!! Maybe all the 260 or so 1958 XLCs had XLR engines, race frames and taped up side stands!!!

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As for the shocks, I thought for a long time these were leather covers, but no, they are rubber covers.

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Postby mikeslemmon » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:00 pm

I think that the engine is a '57 see the space between the number pad and the bar below it 10 screw primary grasshoppers on an R?
I'd like to see the whole picture very interesting
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Re: The KHRM post

Postby thefrenchowl » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:43 pm

It's a close up of one of the 4 factory photos of the 1958 XLC/CH...

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They sligthly moded the XLR prototype for the shots...

Morality: don't believe the factory photos too much!!!

And moreover, don't use them to justify your choice of restoration!!!

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Postby mikeslemmon » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:43 pm

thank's Patrick
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Re: The KHRM post

Postby xlh59 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:01 pm

I just realized from looking at the pictures simon and patrick posted, that both bikes have the big twin side stand mounted half on the skid plate and half on that steel frame that supports the brake lever.
Most of the other pictures of "restored" KHRMs have the side stand mounted on the left front motor mount ... but most of them are alo missing the KHRM brake leverage. Still, the brake lever support that simon posted pictures from in an earlier post does not have the tabs to mount the sidestand and it does not look like they have been removed? Was the side stand included, when the bike was handed over to the customer?

Another thing that I really like is the number plate mount, which seems to prove that the KHRM was "street legal" in the US at that period of time.
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Re: The KHRM post

Postby thefrenchowl » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:18 pm

My 2017 pictures are of an original unrestored 55 bike in the USA, Ca... I had 1980s canadian pictures of it on my site... Hasn't changed one yota since...

So you can trust what it shows... At least proving it is true to itself, if not to the full number of KHRMs made that year (the serials you noted could just show the management had some consecutive numbers set aside for them, it doesn't prove they were made as a batch...)

Don't take restorations as representing anything other than the owner's fancy... Unless backed by period photos of that bike...

Why do you think original/unrestored stuff is starting to be appreciated??? Cause they don't lie and are not wannabees, fake news, call it what you wish...

I will agree with you that the 54 brochure don't show a jiffy stand and don't mention it in the blurb, but you've got to assume they were fitted on customers bikes after the catalog went out...

Number plates: KRM and KHRM were advertised in the race catalogues, not the street catalogues... I'm not an AMA specialist, maybe you needed a street legal bike to race in the desert, or at least a bike with a street legal title, don't know... But I've never seen a shot of them casually gliding in the street...

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Postby xlh59 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:30 pm

Hi Patrick,

I fully agree with you, unfortunately to many originals are parted out for "restaurations" that are made of parts with unknown history. Lucky people had access to these juwels 20 years ago and took the chance. Today it gets almost impossible to own an "original" as there are always people with a bigger purse ... but thats another topic.

I was always wondering about the use of this tube on the foot peg/brake lever support. Now it makes completely sense -- its there to hold the side stand!
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Re: The KHRM post

Postby thefrenchowl » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:35 pm

If the left peg was just held by the flat bar held by 2 bolts on the frame/primary, it would have bent at the 1st encountered rut!!!

3 points fixing greatly enhances its strength...

That it holds the jiffy stand is like a lucky afterthought!!!

I could have had that canadian KHRM for around $10,000 in the 80s (for comparison, I got my 54 KHK for £3,500 around that same time), but I then just arrived in GB with empty pockets...

It's more like $50K now and in California but I don't know if it's sold yet...

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Re: The KHRM post

Postby Simon » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:04 am

Patrick I remember you and that blue KHRM - so it’s the same bike? The one that got away!

Owner of that yellow bike was looking at about 20K.He said it was as delivered and the owner had it from new but I still suspect some parts were changed out.

My KHRM rear fender does not have the number plate mount. I suspect these were very custom orders at the time.
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Re: The KHRM post

Postby Simon » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:46 pm

Here are some pics I have of the KRM/KHRM speedo and what I believe is the drive.

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