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KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:13 am
by hugoct
Notes from the Race Department, 1967
47006-52R Frame 32 pounds (used on KR and KRTT 1952 through 1957 and all XLRTT)
47006-58R Frame 27 pounds (used on KR and KRTT 1958 through 1969)
47462-54R Rear Section, Long 13 pounds
47462-60R Rear Section, Long (light) 10 pounds

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:09 am
by Beau
The 67-69 KRTT Low-boy should be included. The factory riders used them, don't know if any of the
privateers had any.


Beau

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:06 pm
by hugoct
Beau, The information I provided came from a former staff member of the racing department. I have two hi boys (both Fred Nix) and one lo boy (Roger Reiman) but doubt I will be stripping them to weigh them. If anyone else wants to do that with theirs that would be great. :)

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:21 pm
by hugoct
Beau,
We have Leo Hulnik to thank for this information
1952-69 Stock KRTT/XLRTT swingarm 10.1 Lbs
1966-7 High Boy frame w/o swingarm 28 Lbs
1967-9 Low Boy frame w/o swingarm 18 Lbs
1966-9 High boy/Low Boy swingarm 8.9 Lbs

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:15 am
by xlh59
My KR/XLR frame with 58R neck weights 30.5 lbs, slightly lightened, so ist seems to be a "late" 52R frame
My XRTT frame weights 19.5 lbs, it seems to be a later frame, as it uses a -67 tomohawk casting and a square tube swingarm. The swingarm weights 7.5 lbs ...

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:57 pm
by hugoct
Are you sure it isn't a 57R casting number?
If that's the case, based on the weight it would be an XLRTT frame.
Factory issue XRTT frames did not use the 67 pivot casting.
They made 51 in 1972 and still had some laying around at the factory in the 1980s.
All Alloy XRTT frames had round swing arms
There are two versions of the Alloy XRTT swingarm both with round tubing.

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:55 am
by xlh59
You are completely right about the 57R Neck, mixed that up. The frame has also a stamped steel top Motor mount. I will post Pictures soon.

The XRTT frame is definately not 72, but seems to be quite authentic. It came with Morris wheels, Tank, Cerianis and CB disc brakes:
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The Seat is aftermarket und the shocks just for the First assembly ... this picture is 10years old.

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:41 am
by hugoct
The XRTT frame continued in production by various parties after Harley Davidson's initial run of 51.
You can still buy one from some people today.
The better replicas use the 52 pivot casting as the original print calls for.
None were manufactured by Harley's source with a 67 pivot casting.
There were no square section tubing swingarms.
It looks like a nice frame.
It's just not an original.
There are far more XRTTs today then ever left Nichols Engineering or the Factory Race Department.

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:52 am
by DaveC
I sent you a PM. Thanks Dave C

Re: KR,KRTT, XLRTT frames

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:36 pm
by hugoct
Dave C
I have never been able to respond to PMs
Please call 817 403 7944