V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

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V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby hennesse » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:13 pm

I snatched a solo seat and tee on eBay recently. Decent price, seat needs recovering, one rivet missing from tee.

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Snatched on eBay
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I'll need to find the springs and plungers setup to put this seat on my 54 KH. Imagine my surprise when I found this on eBay. Imagine my disappointment when I realized it was missing both sets of springs, the little spring, and the roller. Imagine my wonderment when I realized the retaining plate is quite unusual. What are those extra holes? The extra holes have reinforcements that appear to be spot welded on, and look factory. Definitely not a normal retaining plate. Is it some KR or XLR racer dealie? Or maybe it's some later model thingie?

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Strange retaining plate!
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Anyway, my original question was: if I can't find an original set of springs/plungers, there's always the V-Twunk (a portmanteau of V-Twin and _unk) repro set. Has anyone tried these? How good/bad is it? Hopefully I can find a set of originals by next spring, but if not, it never hurts to have a Plan B.

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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby 55khkjoe » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:05 pm

is that a coil bracket, Dave
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby dr dick » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:36 pm

dave the part you bought is 51526-52a. used 67-69 ch with solo, 67-70 xlh, 70 xlch, 71 & 72 all standard models.
on long frame models it mounted the coil, and did double duty if equipped with solo.
67-69 short frame used it just for solo.

you were expecting it to be 51526-52. used 52-66 all with solo.
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby hennesse » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:11 pm

55khkjoe wrote:is that a coil bracket, Dave


Joe - right you are. RogerM and JerryR just e-mailed me. Roger said
"this retainer is a 51526-52A; new for 1967 and serves as the coil mounting bracket for the electric start bikes (and continued in use as the retaining plate for solo seat optioned bikes). I'm pretty sure when this came along it superceded the old style plate; it was used well up into the seventies. The 1967 book shows both plates, but my 1971 book just shows the -52A as fitting everything with solo seats. I believe the -52A retaining plate was also used on the XLCH models starting in 1970 when the magneto was dropped."


And we learned something else from Roger - about the Seat Tees.

There are early and late 51902-54 seat T-bars; yours is the later version, which has added material around the nose where the bolt goes through. The early version is much lighter duty. No clear evidence when this changed; an original paint solo-seat (from new) '59 XLH I examined had the late version and is about 500 numbers higher than my CH serial number (59XLCH2361); a British magazine tested an early '59 CH and it has the early seat bar (also long ribs on the front fender struts). The early T bars are much more common since they were used '54 - (early/mid) '59, and the later ones would only have been used (early/mid) '59 and 1960 production; starting in '61 the dual seat was standard instead of the solo. Most people aren't even aware there is a difference.


Well Dang, I wasn't aware of the difference, and now I've bought the wrong one for my '54. But I guess that's the beauty of this website - others can learn from my mistake. I looked at the one on my 1962 XLCH, and it appears the same. My 62 came with the dual seat on it, but the solo in a box of parts, and springs and plungers in the bike. I think it was either ordered with the bike, or purchased as spare parts not too long afterwards.

The solo seats were available as an option, or as spare parts, at least through 1969. The 1976 Parts Book shows the solo seat as used through 1970. Interestingly, it shows the 51526-52A retaining plate through 1972 - I guess in 1971 and 1972 it was needed just for someplace to mount the coil?


Roger (and all the ships at sea) - do you have an early tee you could take photos of so we could post a set of comparison photos? (And anybody want to trade an early one for a late one?)
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby hennesse » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:21 pm

dr dick wrote:dave the part you bought is 51526-52a. used 67-69 ch with solo, 67-70 xlh, 70 xlch, 71 & 72 all standard models.
on long frame models it mounted the coil, and did double duty if equipped with solo.
67-69 short frame used it just for solo.

you were expecting it to be 51526-52. used 52-66 all with solo.


Dr. Dick - fortunately I didn't buy it. Just saw it and wondered what was up with the extra holes. Enquiring minds want to know...
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby Yard Dog » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:41 am

Dave,

That one on eBay now is the early version. The casting number ending in -52 is on the top. Yours, the later one , has a casting number ending in -52a on the bottom.

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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby sean » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:16 am

i used the repo v twin springs ,i had the plungers for my 52 but was missing the springs.they fit in nicely.seemed to load up correctly when i bolted down the top plate.i used a late 40s 45 seat i had laying around.correct no but will get me down the road till a correct one falls in my lap.i have a buddy seat but its too damn ugly and a lil newer then 52
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby hennesse » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:11 am

Yard Dog wrote:Dave,
That one on eBay now is the early version. The casting number ending in -52 is on the top. Yours, the later one , has a casting number ending in -52a on the bottom.
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Jack,

You are correct - the one on eBay is the early version of the 51902-54. I now see the difference between the early and late. BUT, the one on eBay is missing a part - the bracket with the hole that the spring-loaded roller shaft pops into. The photos on eBay are so dark you can hardly see, but check this Photoshop-enhanced version:

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Early version of the 51902-54 Look Ma - No bracket. Just Holes where the bracket should be...
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby sportsterpaul » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:46 pm

To add a little coverage for the 1952 and 1953 seat, here are pics of mine, I am pretty sure this is right. I did see a lot of confusion on eBay, with a lot of people selling W-model and big-bike seats, calling them K or Sportster. I have a factory seat spring kit on my 62 and the V-Twin kit on the K-model, for now at least. I think the old V-Twin kit had just a flat plate-- really Mickey Mouse-- but now I think they are more like a reproduction. I do use the V-Twin springs with my factory assembly. First let me get these seat pictures in, and then I will go look at the seat spring kits on both bikes, and maybe get some pictures of those. I will do two posts to deal with the three picture limit that is needed so the posts paginate well.

First the 1952-52 tree. I was confident of this because the casting number looks right.
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That big goofy spacer is something that was in my "Spacer-like substance" coffee can, and its a million-to-one it is correct, despite me hanging around bike shops most of my life. Anyone with a pic or a real one of those let me know.

Here is a close-up of the casting number:
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And here is that retention tab, that was missing on the eBay seat-- I see they used three rivets in 1952.
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I will do the 1952 seat next.
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Re: V-Twunk Solo Seatpost Kit

Postby sportsterpaul » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:54 pm

Here are some pictures of the 1952 and 1953 K-model seat. The eBay auction expired and I got the guy to re-list despite the owner of the seat wanting to take it to Hershey or some big swap meet. This was three years ago.

The seat with the 1952 tree:
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A straight-on bottom view:
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Here is a 3/4 view of the top.
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Now back to Dave's question, the seat spring kit from V-Twin. Let me go out into the garage-- hang on...
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